pappu
10-27 02:34 PM
Congrats alterego !
You paid 68K for legal and immigration fees... that is steeep man ! I wonder how...
68K is unbelievable. Can you elaborate how.
The pain during the long wait is understandable.
You paid 68K for legal and immigration fees... that is steeep man ! I wonder how...
68K is unbelievable. Can you elaborate how.
The pain during the long wait is understandable.
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485Mbe4001
05-23 04:17 PM
As someone who has talked to the congressmen and their staff, i can say that they do keep track of the number of people calling to support or speak against a bill. They can judge the public support or backlash easily. Talk radios inflamed anti immigrant groups who made thousands of calls. We on the other hand analyze the bills to death (in process provide talking points to the opposition), ask for minute by minute updates and start daydreaming on how we will celebrate when the bills pass. We make one call and expect immediate results.
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
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07-15 11:26 AM
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h1techSlave
05-26 12:41 PM
There is a chance that all unused visas over the last several years will get assigned to FB quota and EB folks will loose all those visas for ever.
There is nothing in it for us. In-fact, if this bill passes, they are goin got apply the unused visa numbers towards FB, and we will lose any chance of re-capture, for-ever.
I think, we have a lost cause. The sooner we accept this, the better. We simply do not have the funds, commitment and political support that the illegals enjoy. We all know where the maximum nubver of FB immigrants are from, and they represent a big block of votes, since most of them happen to have the herd mentality, due to lack of education.
We, on the other hand, are educated, well read, tax paying people, who actually think about issues and merits of a person, hence no use to politicians.
There is nothing in it for us. In-fact, if this bill passes, they are goin got apply the unused visa numbers towards FB, and we will lose any chance of re-capture, for-ever.
I think, we have a lost cause. The sooner we accept this, the better. We simply do not have the funds, commitment and political support that the illegals enjoy. We all know where the maximum nubver of FB immigrants are from, and they represent a big block of votes, since most of them happen to have the herd mentality, due to lack of education.
We, on the other hand, are educated, well read, tax paying people, who actually think about issues and merits of a person, hence no use to politicians.
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v2neha
11-01 06:06 PM
I won't go back - not because I am lazy or afraid of smarter people back home. I won't go back - not because I love USA dearly and not because I can't put up with hardships of my home country.
I won't go back because I did not come here to go back in the first place. I won't go back because my going back will change nothing. I won't go back because I love my job even if I can't change it. I won't go back because my kids have friends here. I won't go back because I am not the kind that gives up - even in the name of a social movement.
I won't go back because I did not come here to go back in the first place. I won't go back because my going back will change nothing. I won't go back because I love my job even if I can't change it. I won't go back because my kids have friends here. I won't go back because I am not the kind that gives up - even in the name of a social movement.
jayram123
07-12 03:28 PM
If you heard what the restrictionist lawmakers have said about what to do with illegal�s, this retrogression makes sense. The restrictionists want to make life miserable for illegal�s by making it difficult for them to get jobs, this way the illegal�s would go back on there own.
They are trying to do the same thing with us legal�s (without saying it aloud). If you are from India it will take you at least 6 to 8 years (if you are lucky) to get a green card. Frankly in the fast changing technologically advanced world how many people can hold on to the same job for 8 years straight, they cannot. People lose jobs because they are laid of, the company has run into bad times, the technology has changed and the company wants to move you to a different role or position etc, this way a lot of people have to switch jobs which invalidates thete green card process. They are making your life miserable so that you are broken down psychologically and finally will go away either on your own or because of some arcane rule, example the labor should be applied more than one year before h1 expiration etc, a living example is that Indian guy who posted recently that he is leaving US to work for Microsoft in Canada. This way they get the best of both worlds, you have young people in the prime of there life without any diseases who do not burden there medicare system, working hard and paying social security taxes and medicare taxes (which they will not get back) and in the end they are kicked out or go away on there own.
You got it right or what!!! That sounds like the modern definition of slavery and seems to be what is happening in US despite all the claims of abolishment of slavery. They just have refined it to a point where it is subtle and not so blatant.
They are trying to do the same thing with us legal�s (without saying it aloud). If you are from India it will take you at least 6 to 8 years (if you are lucky) to get a green card. Frankly in the fast changing technologically advanced world how many people can hold on to the same job for 8 years straight, they cannot. People lose jobs because they are laid of, the company has run into bad times, the technology has changed and the company wants to move you to a different role or position etc, this way a lot of people have to switch jobs which invalidates thete green card process. They are making your life miserable so that you are broken down psychologically and finally will go away either on your own or because of some arcane rule, example the labor should be applied more than one year before h1 expiration etc, a living example is that Indian guy who posted recently that he is leaving US to work for Microsoft in Canada. This way they get the best of both worlds, you have young people in the prime of there life without any diseases who do not burden there medicare system, working hard and paying social security taxes and medicare taxes (which they will not get back) and in the end they are kicked out or go away on there own.
You got it right or what!!! That sounds like the modern definition of slavery and seems to be what is happening in US despite all the claims of abolishment of slavery. They just have refined it to a point where it is subtle and not so blatant.
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days_go_by
01-30 07:17 AM
I think it is 45 working days, not counting weekends and holidays, that gives us 9 weeks of time to file for 140, that should be enough in most cases.
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mudigondag
02-06 11:54 AM
It is not just wife's work permit problem. If you don't have GC and your kids are entering the college, they are not eligible for any scholarships are student loans. So you have to bear all the expenses from your pocket or you have to take a personal loan at a higher interest from some financial institution
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walking_dude
12-03 03:27 PM
With all due respect I don't think lottery may be a workable idea. Here's why -
Those who buy lotteries wish to spend least possible amount of money for a chance to win an insanely large sum of money - for e.g. spend $10 to win $10 million. Idea is prize money should make the money spent feel ridiculously low ( it doesn't matter if chances of winning are lower than getting struck by lightning ! ). How can this be worked out in the IV scenario?
2 times the money is less than what people win at a 'Pot luck'!
Those who buy lotteries wish to spend least possible amount of money for a chance to win an insanely large sum of money - for e.g. spend $10 to win $10 million. Idea is prize money should make the money spent feel ridiculously low ( it doesn't matter if chances of winning are lower than getting struck by lightning ! ). How can this be worked out in the IV scenario?
2 times the money is less than what people win at a 'Pot luck'!
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kumar1
10-03 09:56 AM
My post is going to make few MS/Phd people angry over here. Correct me if I am wrong, but when you came here to do MS/Phd, you came on a student visa...Right? Student visa comes under Non Permanent Non Resident alien category. All of you had a burden to prove to the US consulate that after you complete your degree, you would go back to your home country. All of you prepared for that and you knew the moment you said, I might not come back, F1 would be gone! You said this...every time you went back for F1 visa revalidation. Mind you..that H1/H4 never had that burden. They could have easily said that yes, if I like USA, I might not come back.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
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pappu
12-30 09:30 AM
Thank you for posting this action item on other websites
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bugsbunny
04-19 11:36 AM
Fully agree with each word you said. Many people with legit US education (not TVU kind that many not so educated people on this forum are taking shelter under the umbra of) who have been in the US for more than 10 years are still lawfully waiting in the line. And this idiot with a BCOM and MCA ( correspondence course from IGNOU) is dreaming of porting into EB2 and screw us up. Shame on USCIS and Shame on DOL. I am really concerned that if legit EB2 applicants don't talk to lawmakers and send emails to USCIS, we will be stuck here for years due to these fradulent porting.
I don't get why you are so affected by this?
First its not porting...its a new EB2 application
It should make no difference to your precious application and position in the line as you are supposedly already EB2.
The only people that are affected are EB3...why are you up in arms?
I don't get why you are so affected by this?
First its not porting...its a new EB2 application
It should make no difference to your precious application and position in the line as you are supposedly already EB2.
The only people that are affected are EB3...why are you up in arms?
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Abhinaym
09-24 10:18 AM
I am EB3-India, yet I dont support the removal of per country limits, as there is a reason for the diversity rule, Indians and Chinese are currently on the wrong side of the equation so it seems "fair" to remove the quota.
BS...
The diversity rule originated to preserve racial purity and keep down Chinese immigrant population, in the 19th century. You want to preserve it?
If rules weren't meant to change, why have the fricking senates, parliaments and elected officials?? All we need is one court to run the whole country.
These EB country limits might look OK to you now, but in the future they'll be no doubt condemned and scrapped. The sooner the better.
BS...
The diversity rule originated to preserve racial purity and keep down Chinese immigrant population, in the 19th century. You want to preserve it?
If rules weren't meant to change, why have the fricking senates, parliaments and elected officials?? All we need is one court to run the whole country.
These EB country limits might look OK to you now, but in the future they'll be no doubt condemned and scrapped. The sooner the better.
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misanthrope
10-03 12:12 PM
Dude, I'm not flaming at you (it was gctest not you) but you also made really demeaning statements and then tried to retract them when you started getting reds, I think. Its not good to trash others.
Which statements of mine are demeaning?
I edited 2 posts because of grammatical errors.
Which statements of mine are demeaning?
I edited 2 posts because of grammatical errors.
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kumarc123
01-11 02:54 PM
thank u thank u thank u..... please pray for me..... it might work where dos has has failed since sep-09, just 19 days away..... i promise to not bother u after i get my gc.... did i rub u the wrong way in the past
Thank you, you just proved how much of a team player you are.
Their is fine line between dreaming and reality, I wish you the best for your day dreams
P.S. -- Enjoy your medication
Thank you, you just proved how much of a team player you are.
Their is fine line between dreaming and reality, I wish you the best for your day dreams
P.S. -- Enjoy your medication
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sc3
09-24 01:03 PM
This fellow who wrote this might be one of those arm chair critics who just criticizes everything if it doesn't favor that individual. What a moron. I am sure this fellow is clueless about how much effort is put into to make a legislation.
There has been lot of work done by many IV volunteers just to get a bill introduced. It is so stupid just to trash talk the efforts put in by the selfless IV volunteers.
All IV members has to be proud that we have been able to get a bill that addresses the GC backlogs. Hey one year back lawmakers were clueless about EB GC issues. Now majority of the lawmakers atleast have an understanding about EB GC issues. It is a matter of time before we succeed.
The easiest guage for the success of the IV efforts is to see the response U get from the lawmakers when U write to them about GC issues. Earlier U used to get a generic reply about undocumented workers and broken borders, nowadays U would be getting replies that talk about EB immigration. Isn't that an achievement. As a professional aren't U proud that U are give the respect U deserve rather than getting clubbed with undocumented workers. Ask for U'r self?
I agree that person is somewhat misinformed in what it takes to get a legislation passed. No doubt there are so many IV members who have put in hours and hours of selfless work to get things moved. They deserve unreserved accolade for that.
And, for the record, there have been various bills (that eventually ended up in the dustbin) even before IV. IVs major contribution is in decoupling the legal and illegal immigration bills (which again were disengaged in many previous bills, till someone decided that they need to add illegal immigrant provisions to it).
There has been lot of work done by many IV volunteers just to get a bill introduced. It is so stupid just to trash talk the efforts put in by the selfless IV volunteers.
All IV members has to be proud that we have been able to get a bill that addresses the GC backlogs. Hey one year back lawmakers were clueless about EB GC issues. Now majority of the lawmakers atleast have an understanding about EB GC issues. It is a matter of time before we succeed.
The easiest guage for the success of the IV efforts is to see the response U get from the lawmakers when U write to them about GC issues. Earlier U used to get a generic reply about undocumented workers and broken borders, nowadays U would be getting replies that talk about EB immigration. Isn't that an achievement. As a professional aren't U proud that U are give the respect U deserve rather than getting clubbed with undocumented workers. Ask for U'r self?
I agree that person is somewhat misinformed in what it takes to get a legislation passed. No doubt there are so many IV members who have put in hours and hours of selfless work to get things moved. They deserve unreserved accolade for that.
And, for the record, there have been various bills (that eventually ended up in the dustbin) even before IV. IVs major contribution is in decoupling the legal and illegal immigration bills (which again were disengaged in many previous bills, till someone decided that they need to add illegal immigrant provisions to it).
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wawa
09-30 12:30 AM
Hi there,
I received the exact same Email notice from USCIS as you on Sept. 28, 2007. I'm confused! I got my H1B 7th year extention approved in Feb. 2006. What happened to this case?
I received the exact same Email notice from USCIS as you on Sept. 28, 2007. I'm confused! I got my H1B 7th year extention approved in Feb. 2006. What happened to this case?
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alterego
12-06 10:03 PM
I think each person can write their own story and here are a few writing points as appropriate.
1) How long you have been here, and how despite your contributions in work and taxes, creativity(of jobs?) and maintainineg legal status, you have been left in a difficult spot of no permanency of status.
2) How you have benefited from this country and would like to give back, and understood that to be the tradition on which america was built.
3) If you have US born Children. That it would be unjust to ask them to be brought up elsewhere.
4) That your entrepreneural ideas have been held back by your inability to have permanency of tenure here.
5) That you never understood that to be the way it is done in America. However, a little voice keeps telling you to never quit on America, as she eventually gets it right.
6) That you have been unable to buy a home due to this issue and wonder why it is that you can't help yourself while helping America. That you have a stable job, 20% down, excellent credit and the whole nine yards except the green card. That there are thousands like you waiting to jump in.
7) How the US gov't bureaucracy has "wasted" over half a million green cards already allocated annually by congress, all happened while there were years long queues and merely recapturing those visas has been blocked by gridlock.
8) Mention Immigrationvoice in your e mail, and state that we have some great ideas on how to make the EB system more efficient and would love to be engaged in improving the system.
1) How long you have been here, and how despite your contributions in work and taxes, creativity(of jobs?) and maintainineg legal status, you have been left in a difficult spot of no permanency of status.
2) How you have benefited from this country and would like to give back, and understood that to be the tradition on which america was built.
3) If you have US born Children. That it would be unjust to ask them to be brought up elsewhere.
4) That your entrepreneural ideas have been held back by your inability to have permanency of tenure here.
5) That you never understood that to be the way it is done in America. However, a little voice keeps telling you to never quit on America, as she eventually gets it right.
6) That you have been unable to buy a home due to this issue and wonder why it is that you can't help yourself while helping America. That you have a stable job, 20% down, excellent credit and the whole nine yards except the green card. That there are thousands like you waiting to jump in.
7) How the US gov't bureaucracy has "wasted" over half a million green cards already allocated annually by congress, all happened while there were years long queues and merely recapturing those visas has been blocked by gridlock.
8) Mention Immigrationvoice in your e mail, and state that we have some great ideas on how to make the EB system more efficient and would love to be engaged in improving the system.
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07-15 11:51 AM
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aspiration
06-14 02:51 PM
Your idea is good...But only people who will participate in this will be those who have already made the calls..
I don't think that those who couldn't spare 10 mins of day to make a call themselves will ask their friends or family members to call house members... And if they start calling by themselves... You and me won't be posting this message for taking help with Friends and Family... We have more than 30,000 members and time and again i reiterate that there must be more than 200 unique visitors for this thread.. SO PLEASE PLEASE>.. I urge all of you to do your part ...No one else have to post this message and ask you for support , if you call.
( No one would be reading this message untill he or she is stuck somewhere in the processing of their adjustment of status).. So why wait folks?
Your call to lawmakers is for your own benefit and befit of everyone of us..
I don't think that those who couldn't spare 10 mins of day to make a call themselves will ask their friends or family members to call house members... And if they start calling by themselves... You and me won't be posting this message for taking help with Friends and Family... We have more than 30,000 members and time and again i reiterate that there must be more than 200 unique visitors for this thread.. SO PLEASE PLEASE>.. I urge all of you to do your part ...No one else have to post this message and ask you for support , if you call.
( No one would be reading this message untill he or she is stuck somewhere in the processing of their adjustment of status).. So why wait folks?
Your call to lawmakers is for your own benefit and befit of everyone of us..
dallasdude
05-13 11:05 AM
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
I'm proud of you. Very well said indeed. Just ignore the haters.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
I'm proud of you. Very well said indeed. Just ignore the haters.
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