sc3
08-14 01:06 AM
For those who care to read...the fact that I am suggesting that people should port their priority dates before that door closes shows that I believe that people who have played by the rules (ie actually put in the 5 yrs experience or find a job with EB2 requirements) should get preference !!
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
Legal arguments were already dealt with in the other thread, there is no basis to sue, as the porting is well established law. So is the requirements for EB2.
Regarding the EB3 to EB2 shafting EB2, well, you already know that most people will not be able to port because they are not willing to change jobs, or that the company is bit too strict about playing with immigration laws.
Also, a point to be noted when you say EB3 has had the opportunity -- you too had similar opportunities. You too could have been EB3, gained experience and converted to EB2. Instead you decided that it was in your best interests to follow your dream of getting a PHD -- a choice, I dont think you are be ruing, but for the fact that you find yourself placed behind all the guys who did not do PHD.
Plight of EB2? I think not. Even with EB3-to-EB2 porting, priority dates are well ahead of EB3 (even without the current jump, EB2 was around mid 2004), and now, I guess when it returns to normal, would be around 2005. So while not exactly current (like EB1, shouldn't they be "similarly entitled" to have a superior lead times), the wait times for EB2, compared to EB3 hardly justifies it to be called "plight".
But then again, to each his own. EB3ers other EB2ers waited almost 3 years for our LCs, people with 2006PDs did not even wait 6 months for it (both EB2 and EB3) -- and worse still are people stuck in BEC (who waited 4-6 years). And yet people in 2006 complain that they have "horrendous wait times".
EB3s saw tons of people getting through substitute labor, people who have no right to cut into the line ahead of us, significant portion of these cases (including EB2 substitution) are fraught with fraud, however the law was weak, and there was nothing that we could do to prevent such things. Lawsuits are useless for us to weed out such applicants, or even question their earlier PDs because they are protected by the then current laws.
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
Legal arguments were already dealt with in the other thread, there is no basis to sue, as the porting is well established law. So is the requirements for EB2.
Regarding the EB3 to EB2 shafting EB2, well, you already know that most people will not be able to port because they are not willing to change jobs, or that the company is bit too strict about playing with immigration laws.
Also, a point to be noted when you say EB3 has had the opportunity -- you too had similar opportunities. You too could have been EB3, gained experience and converted to EB2. Instead you decided that it was in your best interests to follow your dream of getting a PHD -- a choice, I dont think you are be ruing, but for the fact that you find yourself placed behind all the guys who did not do PHD.
Plight of EB2? I think not. Even with EB3-to-EB2 porting, priority dates are well ahead of EB3 (even without the current jump, EB2 was around mid 2004), and now, I guess when it returns to normal, would be around 2005. So while not exactly current (like EB1, shouldn't they be "similarly entitled" to have a superior lead times), the wait times for EB2, compared to EB3 hardly justifies it to be called "plight".
But then again, to each his own. EB3ers other EB2ers waited almost 3 years for our LCs, people with 2006PDs did not even wait 6 months for it (both EB2 and EB3) -- and worse still are people stuck in BEC (who waited 4-6 years). And yet people in 2006 complain that they have "horrendous wait times".
EB3s saw tons of people getting through substitute labor, people who have no right to cut into the line ahead of us, significant portion of these cases (including EB2 substitution) are fraught with fraud, however the law was weak, and there was nothing that we could do to prevent such things. Lawsuits are useless for us to weed out such applicants, or even question their earlier PDs because they are protected by the then current laws.
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gc28262
04-27 10:01 AM
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drona
07-12 01:54 PM
Just tried sending you a PM but it says you have exceeded your stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until you clear some space. Perhaps you could activate the ability for members to send you an email?
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Saikrishna
07-19 11:25 AM
Thanks to GOD for helping him in order to help us regarding with all our immigration problem...
Sure and will do some contribution (on this website)soon to him and IV core team for their fruitless efforts.
ONE REQUEST FOR EVERYONE - Please contribute some money from your pockets to Aman ASAP and make him happy...
PRAISE THE LORD !!!
Sure and will do some contribution (on this website)soon to him and IV core team for their fruitless efforts.
ONE REQUEST FOR EVERYONE - Please contribute some money from your pockets to Aman ASAP and make him happy...
PRAISE THE LORD !!!
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nixstor
06-03 11:22 AM
Great find.
We need to get more support from the right/republican side. Please call the republican members.
We need to get more support from the right/republican side. Please call the republican members.
sledge_hammer
02-01 03:16 PM
I don't get this. Who is sponsoring this person's GC? He must have a sponsor to get the EB-based GC. He can't show his job skills as cooking !!:)
A desi consulting company brought him to the US. When they realized he wasn't going to get a project, they just didn't let go of him. Since he was a reliable guy (1. he can be trusted with monthly grocery payment 2. his labor can be sold later to others 3. he servres as an insider who can get information if other consultants are trying to be sneaky by getting their resumes marketed by another company, etc etc, basically he is an asset even thought he doesn't have a project), they just decided to keep him there. These companies don't have attorneys. They take care of all legal matters themselves. Now, how much is hte USCIS fee to file for labor? How much to file for I-140? Peanuts right? So they continue to keep his application active. How hard do you think it is to get fake references when you can make fake resumes. They have fake pay stubs. Fake experience. Fake this and fake that. Everything they do is fake.
So to others who have said that this thread has to be dropped, and have said that these desi companies are right in doing what they're doing, or who have blamed the system - I think that you are one of those people who are involved in such a racket. I know that I have touched your nerves by letting the whole world about this (not that some people didn't know this already). Why else would you want this thread dropped?
A desi consulting company brought him to the US. When they realized he wasn't going to get a project, they just didn't let go of him. Since he was a reliable guy (1. he can be trusted with monthly grocery payment 2. his labor can be sold later to others 3. he servres as an insider who can get information if other consultants are trying to be sneaky by getting their resumes marketed by another company, etc etc, basically he is an asset even thought he doesn't have a project), they just decided to keep him there. These companies don't have attorneys. They take care of all legal matters themselves. Now, how much is hte USCIS fee to file for labor? How much to file for I-140? Peanuts right? So they continue to keep his application active. How hard do you think it is to get fake references when you can make fake resumes. They have fake pay stubs. Fake experience. Fake this and fake that. Everything they do is fake.
So to others who have said that this thread has to be dropped, and have said that these desi companies are right in doing what they're doing, or who have blamed the system - I think that you are one of those people who are involved in such a racket. I know that I have touched your nerves by letting the whole world about this (not that some people didn't know this already). Why else would you want this thread dropped?
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Vexir
06-14 11:35 PM
it's a "skin" if you were to wrap the thing celophane with your design you wouldn't see the wheel or the screen... I say play with the screen, the button but not the wheel. besides, you would rub it off in one day and then it would reaaly look like arse.
Obviously you've never seen an iPod skin. It does actually have holes in it for the click wheel and screen.
Obviously you've never seen an iPod skin. It does actually have holes in it for the click wheel and screen.
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sonia_sd
01-17 12:05 PM
First of all everyone should understand that this is an Interpretation of law by USCIS, and in memo at the bottom it has been clearly stated that this only applies to case workers at USCIS processing centers not for others. I think based on this memo they decide each case whether to approve/reject. However I see this as "targetting only perticular group of people".
Also he mentioned that they arrived the "Employee-Employer" relationship based on 2 distinct supreme court judgments, I am not really sure what judgments the mean there.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Also he mentioned that they arrived the "Employee-Employer" relationship based on 2 distinct supreme court judgments, I am not really sure what judgments the mean there.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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mdmd10
09-17 11:28 AM
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trueguy
08-27 11:43 AM
Based on this poll, can somebody predict EB3-I movement starting Oct'2008?
The dates moved from Apr'2001 to Nov'2001 last year when EB3-I didn't recieve any spillover. So what would be the movement when new year starts?
The dates moved from Apr'2001 to Nov'2001 last year when EB3-I didn't recieve any spillover. So what would be the movement when new year starts?
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485Mbe4001
08-27 12:46 PM
The VB mentions that dates will revert back to the June bulletin and the current says that they may retrogress. We are being too optimistic. before people start the bashing, i am EB3 retrogressed and have sent emails and letters about this issue, still waiting for a response. A query to my congressman came back with more spin about national security and how they are comitted to meaningful immigration policy, nothing from the letters to Rep. logfren and USCIS. Oct VB will be an eye opener for us as well as other EB2's and EB 3 ROWs.
what DEC 2001 ? Is this for India China or rest of the world?
what DEC 2001 ? Is this for India China or rest of the world?
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nefrateedi
07-20 08:33 AM
I am not aware of anyway to check if money order is enchased or not, because, I think, you have to pay money upfront when you buy money order. However, I can be wrong.
Why didn't you just send the check?
Absolutely there is a way to track if a money order has been cashed. The customer service # and order # for the money order are usually listed on the bottom stub which the buyer keeps. Just call the customer service #, plug in your order number and the system should tell you if it has been cashed or not.
Why didn't you just send the check?
Absolutely there is a way to track if a money order has been cashed. The customer service # and order # for the money order are usually listed on the bottom stub which the buyer keeps. Just call the customer service #, plug in your order number and the system should tell you if it has been cashed or not.
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getgreensoon1
04-20 12:06 PM
Can someone please give a GC immediately to getgreensoon1 so that he can get off this forum for good and not talk BS anymore :D
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gc_chahiye
11-01 04:47 PM
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people from India and China ready to take your or my place if we go back. This is even if you tell them they will be stuck with the same employer and job profile for years, and no hope of a GC for the next 7 years. The lure of the US is still big. Reverse-brain-drain threat is unlikely to work...
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somegchuh
07-21 12:02 PM
I think canadian IT jobs will accept US IT experience. However, getting a job there is harder because the industry is small but then again you don't have to be in IT. You are free to start a business there. I know ppl who have come from India to canada and have started insurance business etc. Like moving to any other place, its going to be a fresh-start if you choose to go to canada/Aus/India/etc.
One of my friends who is in Canada for a few years now tells me that the Canadian companies do recognize US experience. Another friend recently finished his MBA from the US ( after he went through the whole MS, job at a top company, GC process where labor got rejected after 4 years nonsense). He moved to Canada with a job offer, so it is much easier for him. Just don't go there and think you will find something. Make sure you have a job offer and only then go there.
One of my friends who is in Canada for a few years now tells me that the Canadian companies do recognize US experience. Another friend recently finished his MBA from the US ( after he went through the whole MS, job at a top company, GC process where labor got rejected after 4 years nonsense). He moved to Canada with a job offer, so it is much easier for him. Just don't go there and think you will find something. Make sure you have a job offer and only then go there.
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conchshell
08-19 02:59 PM
Thanks so much for the suggestion. How can I have my contact details available without posting it on Public Forum?
Meantime, please contact me thru PM, if I can be any help.
May be we can have a section on IV website, where we can list 'handles' of our citizen members. People can PM them when a genuine emergency occurs.
Meantime, please contact me thru PM, if I can be any help.
May be we can have a section on IV website, where we can list 'handles' of our citizen members. People can PM them when a genuine emergency occurs.
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krishna.ahd
02-05 04:16 PM
Letting h4s work in "non specific-skilled jobs" may actually work against us because they will be in direct competition with local people in those jobs and anti immigrant will be against it. I guess porting to h1 from h4 can be a good option and a feasable option.
Folks
Stay focused our (IV) Main Agenda, please dont get distracted with all these ideas.
Folks
Stay focused our (IV) Main Agenda, please dont get distracted with all these ideas.
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BharatPremi
11-01 09:28 PM
Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back.
If all the articles about reverse brain drain we are reading about is true they would do something to solve this GC situation. Otherwise the anti-immigrants will come to see us off while we depart this country and never to return back as H1B's trying to get GC's and live here. This will go into history, 30yrs from now and our grandchildren will read about it. And may be we will get some special pension at our home countries for returning back and helping it to do better.
Please take the poll to indicate if you would participate in this QUIT AMERICA MOVEMENT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE
Your PD is 05/2003... I confidently bet you would not be in a queue for the guys who will go back.:D:D:D. By 4th July 2008 mostly you will be done with this wait hell.. Even if somebody who will be going back wants to track you , you would not be trackable on 4th July 2008.:mad::mad::mad::mad: So please keep patience and help others to maintain the same at least.
If all the articles about reverse brain drain we are reading about is true they would do something to solve this GC situation. Otherwise the anti-immigrants will come to see us off while we depart this country and never to return back as H1B's trying to get GC's and live here. This will go into history, 30yrs from now and our grandchildren will read about it. And may be we will get some special pension at our home countries for returning back and helping it to do better.
Please take the poll to indicate if you would participate in this QUIT AMERICA MOVEMENT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE
Your PD is 05/2003... I confidently bet you would not be in a queue for the guys who will go back.:D:D:D. By 4th July 2008 mostly you will be done with this wait hell.. Even if somebody who will be going back wants to track you , you would not be trackable on 4th July 2008.:mad::mad::mad::mad: So please keep patience and help others to maintain the same at least.
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Macaca
02-05 05:34 PM
And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief.
Something to look forward to. Cheer up folks and quit fighting/quiting and start you know what I rant.
Should have mentioned the following obvious thing in your first post.
EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Something to look forward to. Cheer up folks and quit fighting/quiting and start you know what I rant.
Should have mentioned the following obvious thing in your first post.
EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
f1vlad
07-12 09:07 AM
Someone asked about source on his website, and his response is:
"I really can't go in to details, but the information is reliable."
I have not seen any confirmation of returned packages yet.
"I really can't go in to details, but the information is reliable."
I have not seen any confirmation of returned packages yet.
12samanta
06-06 04:18 PM
I called all of them yesterday.
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