gkarris
May 4, 11:03 PM
A welcome feature.
...until you get your cell phone bill. :eek:
...until you get your cell phone bill. :eek:
Anonymous Freak
Sep 6, 10:28 AM
First, these definitely use Merom, the 'mobile' version of the Core 2 Duo. This means a slower front side bus, lower top-end speed, but lower power consumption as well. (The 2.33 GHz Merom only puts out 35 watts, where the 2.4 GHz Conroe puts out 65 watts. Other than that and the front side bus, there is no other difference between the two chips.)
The low end model appears to be the same as the previous education-only model, only with a Core 2 thrown in. While nice from a cost point of view, it does mean it has 'cut down' Intel graphics instead of even the stock ATI graphics.
The faster 17" model appears to be the exact guts as the previous generation model, with a Core 2 thrown in. It's the 20" and the new 24" models that are interesting.
The low end model appears to be the same as the previous education-only model, only with a Core 2 thrown in. While nice from a cost point of view, it does mean it has 'cut down' Intel graphics instead of even the stock ATI graphics.
The faster 17" model appears to be the exact guts as the previous generation model, with a Core 2 thrown in. It's the 20" and the new 24" models that are interesting.
mogzieee
Mar 21, 04:08 PM
They'll keep it going till 23rd October I reckon. Anniversary event I'm guessing + one of those cheesy white promo videos about the "first 10 years".
Well, we'll see.
Well, we'll see.
SandboxGeneral
Mar 21, 01:27 PM
It's doubtful that that return excuse can ever be used again. Too funny!
milo
Oct 16, 11:24 AM
Before getting slapped... I guess if youre a billionaire you can shove earbuds into a strangers ear, but here in Real World USA the results would not be pretty. Do that with your girlfriend, I dont think ANYONE would want a stranger theyve known for 1 minute coming up to them and putting crap into their ear.
And you think most people would want strangers trying to send them songs and pictures?
Along the same lines, anyone else remember the episode of The Office where Jim used "earbud sharing" with Pam? Gotta love tasteful product placement.
For months on end we've been bombarded with Zune-friendly "news" articles calling it an "iPod killer". Even before Microsoft had a name for it, before they had any sort of design for it, while it was still vaporware, the media kept hammering home, "iPod killer" while seeming to drool over the prospect.
I guess you've been reading different articles than I have. Since they've announced details and pictures I've mostly been seeing articles along the lines of "What a Turd".
And you think most people would want strangers trying to send them songs and pictures?
Along the same lines, anyone else remember the episode of The Office where Jim used "earbud sharing" with Pam? Gotta love tasteful product placement.
For months on end we've been bombarded with Zune-friendly "news" articles calling it an "iPod killer". Even before Microsoft had a name for it, before they had any sort of design for it, while it was still vaporware, the media kept hammering home, "iPod killer" while seeming to drool over the prospect.
I guess you've been reading different articles than I have. Since they've announced details and pictures I've mostly been seeing articles along the lines of "What a Turd".
Apoptosis
Nov 7, 02:21 AM
Apple is primarily an American company and they know that the news cycle will be heavy with Election Results. They can wait until next week and get more bang for the same buck. Europe (Australia, Asia, etc. ) will be just as happy with a Nov. 14 release as Nov. 7.
Im in Australia, and a Nov 14 release would **** me right off...I may need to try and get one delivered by Nov 18...lol.
Im in Australia, and a Nov 14 release would **** me right off...I may need to try and get one delivered by Nov 18...lol.
leekohler
Apr 7, 12:11 PM
God gave the law in the old testament to serve a specific purpose at a specific time to a specific people. From a theological stand point it's purpose was to show that no amount of work or good behavior can bring one to God. The law serves to highlight our separation from God in that none of us can measure up. The wages of sin are death and thus under the law death was the punishment. Under the new covenant Christ's death has paid the price of sin and we no longer need to live under the law.
Then why bother with the Old Testament? Seems to cause a lot of problems.
Then why bother with the Old Testament? Seems to cause a lot of problems.
Peace
Sep 5, 11:07 AM
Sorry for the cross-post
It's Showtime
http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/images/apple_showtime.jpg
Members of the media received email invitations this morning for a special event on Sept. 12 at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts Theater in San Francisco
It's Showtime
http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/images/apple_showtime.jpg
Members of the media received email invitations this morning for a special event on Sept. 12 at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts Theater in San Francisco
azentropy
Apr 14, 01:04 PM
Please. A Macbook costs about $1,000. There will be people who deliberately go for something cheaper, but the majority of people can _afford_ it. The "similarly performing system" to the mini tower is the iMac for $1199. And people who are poor but clever know that in the long term, quality is cheaper - usually the best thing to buy is the cheapest of the best, which would be for example the MacBook. It will still be running fine when you bought the second replacement for a cheaper laptop.
That $1199 iMac has lots of other wonderful features including a screen, but if you think it is anywhere close to the performance of a i7-2600 based PC (that go for $750 from HP/Dell) then you are delusional. To get something from Apple with an equivalent processor you are looking at a $2199 iMac or a $2499 Mac Pro. Doesn't matter that in the long term the Mac could be a better value, some people can't justify that huge price difference or paying additional for features they don't need or want or cannot afford to.
Again Macs are a premium product and because of that Apple will hit a ceiling of those who can afford or justify buying their products.
That $1199 iMac has lots of other wonderful features including a screen, but if you think it is anywhere close to the performance of a i7-2600 based PC (that go for $750 from HP/Dell) then you are delusional. To get something from Apple with an equivalent processor you are looking at a $2199 iMac or a $2499 Mac Pro. Doesn't matter that in the long term the Mac could be a better value, some people can't justify that huge price difference or paying additional for features they don't need or want or cannot afford to.
Again Macs are a premium product and because of that Apple will hit a ceiling of those who can afford or justify buying their products.
Porco
May 5, 07:23 AM
Every time engineers are trying to be clever they run the risk of messing things up. Taking the old iOS, removing it completely, and installing a completely new, fresh iOS is safe and risk free. Trying to be clever and replace only the right things risks messing up things and leaving a very, very, very unhappy customer.
But don't they manage patches with Mac OS X all the time... ? And Mac OS X has much more of the OS exposed and accessible to the user (more to be tinkered with).
I would just like smaller, incremental updates. To be honest I don't mind attaching the phone to the computer to backup before an update at all, it just seems sensible. Updating over 3G before backing up seems risky... unless the backup will happen as part of their 'iCloud' system perhaps?
But don't they manage patches with Mac OS X all the time... ? And Mac OS X has much more of the OS exposed and accessible to the user (more to be tinkered with).
I would just like smaller, incremental updates. To be honest I don't mind attaching the phone to the computer to backup before an update at all, it just seems sensible. Updating over 3G before backing up seems risky... unless the backup will happen as part of their 'iCloud' system perhaps?
jettredmont
Oct 15, 03:42 PM
Before getting slapped... I guess if youre a billionaire you can shove earbuds into a strangers ear, but here in Real World USA the results would not be pretty. Do that with your girlfriend, I dont think ANYONE would want a stranger theyve known for 1 minute coming up to them and putting crap into their ear.
If you're unable to walk up to a girl and ask her if she wants to listen to a cool song, but more than ready to semi-anonymously ask the same thing by connecting to her music player ... well, I guess the Zune might have a market with the socially inept looking for others who are socially inept.
But, in my opinion, if I were to ask someone to listen to a cool song, I'd want to strike up a conversation first, maybe introduce the song, etc. Sending a message like "Someone wants you to listen to something. Accept?" just soounds creepy.
And, no, if asked to listen to something by someone unwilling to identify themselves, my answer would be "no", period. That kind of person is too likely to send me heavy breathing or a breathless rant on global consumerism spliced into the middle of a Britney Spears track (the rant might be okay by itself, but ...)
So, no, I see no advantage in that scenario at all.
If you're unable to walk up to a girl and ask her if she wants to listen to a cool song, but more than ready to semi-anonymously ask the same thing by connecting to her music player ... well, I guess the Zune might have a market with the socially inept looking for others who are socially inept.
But, in my opinion, if I were to ask someone to listen to a cool song, I'd want to strike up a conversation first, maybe introduce the song, etc. Sending a message like "Someone wants you to listen to something. Accept?" just soounds creepy.
And, no, if asked to listen to something by someone unwilling to identify themselves, my answer would be "no", period. That kind of person is too likely to send me heavy breathing or a breathless rant on global consumerism spliced into the middle of a Britney Spears track (the rant might be okay by itself, but ...)
So, no, I see no advantage in that scenario at all.
Squonk
Nov 7, 09:30 AM
and when is the apple product spree going to end!?!?!?!
:D NEVER!!!! :D
:D NEVER!!!! :D
tny
Aug 8, 01:56 PM
Several members have voiced their disapproval over the Mac Pro's exclusion of Front Row and Photo Booth. However, Jobs did say that 10.5 would include "the complete package." He then went on to say that Boot Camp, Front Row, and Photo Booth would be included in the OS. So my question is this: How will one use Front Row on the new Mac Pro?
-Squire
There are five possibilities, in order of (to my mind) decreasing likelihood:
1. New displays will come out by then with both IR and iSight
2. A new iSight will come out by then with built-in IR
3. A little USB device providing IR will become available.
4. A slight update to the Mac Pro will come out by then incorporating IR; PhotoBooth will require the iSight.
5. It won't work on Mac Pro.
EDIT: Missed mwswami's earlier post with some similar comments. Sorry.
-Squire
There are five possibilities, in order of (to my mind) decreasing likelihood:
1. New displays will come out by then with both IR and iSight
2. A new iSight will come out by then with built-in IR
3. A little USB device providing IR will become available.
4. A slight update to the Mac Pro will come out by then incorporating IR; PhotoBooth will require the iSight.
5. It won't work on Mac Pro.
EDIT: Missed mwswami's earlier post with some similar comments. Sorry.
daneoni
Sep 12, 05:33 PM
erm is there a way to go back to iTunes 6 without a complete re-install. Using this thing is giving me a headache
iphone3gs16gb
Mar 30, 02:21 PM
Nope.
Why wasn't I surprised it was you who gave this answer...
sigh
Why wasn't I surprised it was you who gave this answer...
sigh
Warbrain
Nov 7, 07:56 AM
agree - apple needs a thin and light 12" laptop or similar.
Yea, but it will never happen. Read through the thread for my reasons why.
Yea, but it will never happen. Read through the thread for my reasons why.
john123
Mar 14, 10:44 PM
The sort of money you put down on a Mac you shouldn't expect anything less than USB 3.0 from here on out. Core 2 Duo in 2010 leaves a lot to be desired.
This is pretty academic, since you've always paid a premium for the Apple logo. Rarely does a Mac laptop have cutting edge hardware across the board (see the graphics cards in laptops for an example of something that seems always a generation or more behind). The sad reality is that even though you're right, they'll continue to sell those laptops at a prodigious rate. Most people don't care about technical specs as much as they do the overall user experience.
This is pretty academic, since you've always paid a premium for the Apple logo. Rarely does a Mac laptop have cutting edge hardware across the board (see the graphics cards in laptops for an example of something that seems always a generation or more behind). The sad reality is that even though you're right, they'll continue to sell those laptops at a prodigious rate. Most people don't care about technical specs as much as they do the overall user experience.
PrettyMan
Oct 11, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by etoiles
what about high end compositing/film editing ? What about the high end graphics market in general ? 3D anyone ? Apple has been very aggressive buying various software companies and technologies in the field, when are they going to deliver a matching workstation ?
Wait, please, wait...
what about high end compositing/film editing ? What about the high end graphics market in general ? 3D anyone ? Apple has been very aggressive buying various software companies and technologies in the field, when are they going to deliver a matching workstation ?
Wait, please, wait...
2ndPath
Sep 6, 09:24 AM
Precisely - see my above post. As I see it, there is still a huge gap in the product line - perhaps not in price or specs, but in fundamental design philosophy. Anyone wanting an Apple desktop is forced to buy an AIO. For many people that's fine, they don't care, perhaps they even welcome it or prefer it, but for many others it's simply not an attractive option.
Nicely said. I fully agree.
Nicely said. I fully agree.
toddybody
Apr 14, 10:31 AM
I think Mac sales are directly tied to the Halo affect of the iOS devices. The more they sell there, the more people open up to Mac as an alternative. With Lion having more iOS like interfaces, it will make it even more natural for new customers.
Certainly to a degree. A Part of that Halo effect is "oh my iPhone is so easy to use, maybe I should give Macs a chance"...you also have to take into account their huge marketing appeal and iOS compatibility angle. Macs are "cool" and "just work" with everything Apple.
Certainly to a degree. A Part of that Halo effect is "oh my iPhone is so easy to use, maybe I should give Macs a chance"...you also have to take into account their huge marketing appeal and iOS compatibility angle. Macs are "cool" and "just work" with everything Apple.
szsiddiq
Nov 8, 09:04 AM
Or maybe just wash your hands when you're done eating fried chicken?
IMHO the white leaves different marks that are just as back...after awhile ull get a bunch of scuff marks that make the finish look more greyish brown...this is why i hated iBooks
IMHO the white leaves different marks that are just as back...after awhile ull get a bunch of scuff marks that make the finish look more greyish brown...this is why i hated iBooks
ten-oak-druid
Apr 14, 11:54 AM
I can see Apple moving into third over the next two years.
Meanwhile Dell and HP are seeing increased market share with decreased units sold. So the market share for these two will likely increase at the expense of other companies doing more poorly. But there will likely be another Windows PC manufacturer that will pick up steam with a gimmicky ad campaign and bring them back to around 25% market share.
Regardless of OS, I'd hate to see the market share of any one company increase to 50% or have only three manufacturers dominate by a large margin.
What I'd like to see are statistics on resale value. How many used PCs by HP, Dell, Apple, etc. are resold and for what percentage of the original value? You see this with automobiles. New cars advertise resale value.
Meanwhile Dell and HP are seeing increased market share with decreased units sold. So the market share for these two will likely increase at the expense of other companies doing more poorly. But there will likely be another Windows PC manufacturer that will pick up steam with a gimmicky ad campaign and bring them back to around 25% market share.
Regardless of OS, I'd hate to see the market share of any one company increase to 50% or have only three manufacturers dominate by a large margin.
What I'd like to see are statistics on resale value. How many used PCs by HP, Dell, Apple, etc. are resold and for what percentage of the original value? You see this with automobiles. New cars advertise resale value.
Zwopple
Nov 2, 06:51 PM
haha I love all the people in this thread ripping on "FLASH SUCKING" yet have no clue in the difference in development costs of making most Flash Sites with html4 or html5 and ajax.
Half of the stuff Flash does is still impossible in HTML5. It may be slow in some area's but that isn't because Adobe is lazy it's simply due to the way the technology has to work to support all of it's features.
IMO Apple should take heat from this. They have no reason -not- to allow the plugin and have it turned off by default so users don't get battery drain while browsing the web.
Half of the stuff Flash does is still impossible in HTML5. It may be slow in some area's but that isn't because Adobe is lazy it's simply due to the way the technology has to work to support all of it's features.
IMO Apple should take heat from this. They have no reason -not- to allow the plugin and have it turned off by default so users don't get battery drain while browsing the web.
spicyapple
Oct 15, 08:15 PM
A little off topic but would = Ctrl-Alt-Delete on a Mac?
Command+Option+ESC or holding down the Power button.
Command+Option+ESC or holding down the Power button.
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